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CHAMBER CASTS & IMPACT IMPRESSIONS
By Wayne McLerran
DETERMINING CASE LENGTHS
By Wayne McLerran
Updated 9/25/15

Prior to jumping into the following discussion I should make it clear that my
comments on determining case lengths are limited to rimmed straight-wall cases
that seat on the case rim when chambered.  Similar methods are used for
bottleneck rimmed cases but will not be discussed here.

Firing a black powder cartridge (BPC) rifle with a case that’s either too long or
too short can have a direct affect on accuracy and lead to other problems.  A
case that’s too long can result in increased chamber pressures and will affect
accuracy due to bullet deformation and possible base fining.  A case that’s too
short is the most common situation.  One result of a short case is lead
accumulating in the gap between the case lip and the chamber transition step.  
Depending on the gap width and the position of the bullet driving bands and lube
rings in relation to the gap, the gap may fill with lube or lead from the expanded
bullet.  Assuming the gap is filled with lead, as the bullet moves forward the
lead will either be smeared back onto the bullet, resulting in “finned” driving
bands, or stripped off and deposited in the chamber transition step as a lead ring.  
For an additional discussion on shooting short-case cartridges go to the article
titled
Shooting Short-Case Straight-Wall Black Powder Cartridges – Myths &
Facts Concerning Chamber Rings & Accuracy.  While reading further, keep in
mind that one of the keys to improved accuracy is minimizing bullet deformation.

The location of the chamber transition step is the key element in determining the
correct case length.  The transition step defines the forward edge of the chamber.  
It’s the short, angled region where the chamber narrows down to the smaller
groove and bore diameters of the throat and bore.  A typical chamber transition
step angle is 45 degree, but the angle can be much less for chambers designed to
handle grease groove (GG) and paper patched (PP) bullets, and is a necessary
part of accurate chamber and bore designs of cartridge firing rifles.  It allows the
chamber to accept the larger diameter of the cartridge case and fire a smaller
diameter bullet to match the bore diameter while minimizing bullet deformation.
Note: The Miroku manufactured Browning and Winchester chambers have a 12.5
degree transition step angle.

The ideal case length of a fire-formed (fired but not resized) case positions the
front edge (mouth or lip) of the case so that it almost comes into contact with the
rear edge of the chamber transition.  My definition of “almost” leaves some space
(not much) for case stretching under firing conditions.  The case may initially
stretch some when fired then retract.  Therefore, if the mouth is in hard contact
with the chamber transition, “fire crimping” can result, essentially rolling over the
lip and “squeezing” the bullet to a smaller diameter as it exits the case.  Since the
relatively soft cast bullet will expand (obturate) to fill the throat and bore,
increased fining of the base edge caused by fire crimping the case mouth may
have a negative effect on accuracy.  Once the maximum case length (mouth edge
in hard contact with the chamber transition) of a fire-formed case has been
determined, I recommend shortening the case 0.005” or so to eliminate the
possibility of fire crimping.  To determine, with a higher degree of accuracy, how
much your cases stretch, if any, when fired will require further experimentation on
your part.

So how does one determine the maximum case length?  There are five methods
that come to mind.  But regardless of the method used, an accurate determination
of case length must include the chamber length and head clearance.  See figure 2
for an illustration of head clearance.

Following are two quick and easy methods that result in a rough approximation of
case length, which should be sufficient for most shooters.  The third and forth
method consists of utilizes a sulfur chamber cast or a fusible alloy chamber cast
commonly referred to as a CerroSafe cast.  The final method makes use of an
impact impression of the chamber and throat.  All will work but, as will be noted,
there are benefits and tradeoffs associated with each technique.  For details on
making a chamber cast or impact impression, refer to the article titled
Chamber
Casts & Impact Impression.

Quick Methods

Neither of the quick methods discussed below will provide diameter dimensions
of the chamber, throat, or bore.  And both techniques require a case that is
slightly longer than the chamber being measured.  Someone that’s reforming
longer and larger caliber cases to use in a smaller caliber rifle will find the
process a little easier.  The reformed untrimmed case will generally end up longer
than required, a good thing for this exercise.  One example is reforming a .45-70
case to fit into a .40-65 chamber.  Another example is to use a .45-90 case for
measuring a .45-70 chamber or reforming a .45-90 case to use in a .40-65
chamber.

Quick Method 1
As already noted, this method requires a case longer than the chamber.  A full
length resized .45-90 case was used for a .40-65 chamber.  The neck of the case
must be annealed to the softest condition possible.  I stood the case up on a brick
and heated it with a propane torch until the neck area glowed red then allowed it
to cool.  To quickly cool the case and speed up the process a bit, drop it into the
water which will not harden the brass as it would steel.  Now lightly lube the
outside of the case and insert it into the chamber.

Using a wooden dowel and hammer, or similar tools, drive the case in until the
rim fully seats.  The soft brass will not damage the chamber or bore.  Using a
long wooden dowel or metal rod inserted down from the muzzle, gently extract the
case.  The location of the transition step should be obvious but the starting edge
will not be well defined.  Refer to Figure 1 below.












                                          

To identify the rear or starting edge of the step, a permanent marker was used to
blacken both sides of the step.  Then, using very fine sandpaper on a flat surface,
the black area on the chamber side of the step was removed by gently rotating and
sliding the case across the paper.  The remaining edge of the black portion clearly
defined the start of the step.  Measuring the length to the start of the step results
in a close approximation of the overall case length.  Using this method and adding
head clearance, I was able to determine the case length to within 0.005” of the
actual length in my rifle.

One drawback to this method is it can be a little “tricky” to determine the exact
start of the chamber transition, but your measurement should be close enough.  If
the lands and grooves show up on the end of the case, I do not recommend
measuring them to determine bore diameter dimensions.  “Slugging” the bore with
soft lead will provide accurate measurements of the groove and bore diameters.  
Another drawback is the technique does not take in account head clearance,
which will add typically 0.003” to 0.006”, possibly more, to the measured length
depending on the thickness of the case rims.  For a discussion on head clearance,
refer to Figure 2 and comments below.

Quick Method 2
The following technique also requires a case longer than the chamber.  As in the
“Quick Method 1” above, a full length resized .45-90 case was used for a .40-65
chamber.  Expand and then flare the mouth of the case so the flared portion can
be felt dragging on the inside of the chamber wall when it’s being pushed in.  
Continue to push until it comes to a hard stop, indicating the mouth or lip of the
case has hit the start of the chamber transition.  Using the rear end of vernier, dial
or digital calipers as a depth gauge, measure the amount of the case that’s
sticking out of the chamber.  Subtract the amount from the length of the extended
case.  Adding head clearance results is a very close approximation of the
maximum case length.  I found this technique to be faster and slightly more
accurate than “Quick Method 1”.
Note: Depending on the rifle, chamber transition angles can vary from 45 degrees
to much less.  If the angle is very shallow, i.e. a few degrees, this method may not
work very well.  The technique also has the same head clearance drawback as
noted in “Quick Method 1”.  For a discussion on head clearance, refer to Figure 2
and comments below.

Utilizing a Chamber Cast or Impact Impression
Chamber casts and impact impressions are excellent tools for accurately
determining correct case lengths.  Both clearly define the starting edge of the
transition step, typically resulting in a higher degree of measurement accuracy
than does Quick Method 1 and Quick Method 2 discussed above.  For details on
making a cast or impact impression, refer to the article titled
Chamber Casts &
Impact Impressions.

Measuring the chamber length using a sulfur or CerroSafe cast is straight forward
and simple and there’s no need to discuss it further here.  But neither includes
headspace, which is also required for accurately determining case lengths.

Utilizing an impact impression is an excellent method for determining case
lengths.  Measuring the impression from the rear of the rim to the start of the
chamber transition includes the actual headspace of the rifle and will provide the
correct case over-all length (OAL) of a properly trimmed fire-formed case.

Head Clearance and Headspace
Following is a short discussion on head clearance and headspace. As defined by
SAAMI (Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute, Inc.), Head
Clearance is
“The distance between the head of the fully seated cartridge or
shell and the face of the breech bolt (breechblock) when the action is in the
closed position”
.  SAAMI includes a comment that head clearance is commonly
confused with headspace, so don’t make that mistake.  Headspace is “
the
distance from the face of the closed breech of a firearm to the surface in the
chamber on which the cartridge case rests
”.  Therefore, in full agreement with
SAAMI’s definition, the headspace of a rimmed cartridge rifle is measured from
the face of the bolt or breechblock to the bottom of the rim seat which stops the
cartridge from moving forward and is clearly illustrated in Figure 2.



























Wishing you great shooting,
Wayne